Sunday, August 22, 2021

Necrophilia in Islam

 From WikiIslam, the online resource on Islam 

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The subject is controversial and some claim there is fiqh that forbids it (but I honestly have not seen it as yet). Nonetheless, here we go. 


This article looks at how Islam views necrophilia.


The Quran

There doesn't seem to be any verse supporting or denouncing necrophilia. There are some general rules, to be "just" and "don't commit bad deeds", but since pedophilia in Islam is ok, we can't be sure necrophilia isn't.

Unlike the prohibition on pork, a prohibition on necrophilia was NOT mentioned in the Quran. It's worth nothing that there is a verse telling Muslims not to say something is haram, when Allah did not make it haram:

And do not say about what your tongues assert of untruth, "This is lawful and this is unlawful," to invent falsehood about Allah . Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed.


Ibn Kathir explains the verse as such:

(And do not describe what your tongues have lied about, saying: "This is lawful and this is forbidden", to invent lies against Allah.) This includes everyone who comes up with an innovation (Bid`ah) for which he has no evidence from the Shari`ah, or whoever declares something lawful that Allah has forbidden, or whoever declares something unlawful that Allah has permitted, only because it suits his opinions or whim to do so.


Tafsir Ibn Kathir on the verse 16:116

So claiming that necrophilia is haram could be considered a bid'ah (innovation), which is a sin in Islam.


Hadiths

There are some hadiths that some people interpreted as condoning pedophilia:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

We were (in the funeral procession) of one of the daughters of the Prophet (ﷺ) and he was sitting by the side of the grave (جَالِسٌ عَلَى الْقَبْرِ - literally "sitting on the grave"). I saw his eyes shedding tears. He said, "Is there anyone among you who did not have sexual relations with his wife last night?" Abu Talha replied in the affirmative (أَنَا‏ - literally "me!"). And so the Prophet told him to get down in the grave. And so he got down (فَنَزَلَ) in her grave.


So Muhammad sits on her grave, then asks his companions if any of them didn't have sex with his wife last night, Abu Talha says "me!" and then Muhammad tells him to get down to her grave. According to apologetics, he went there to bury her. The hadith says he went down there, but it doesn't say what he did there, so it's not clear.

There is also this hadith, but from a weaker source:

“I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I SLEPT with her (واضطجع معها) in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib”… The prophet was referring to Fatima, the mother of Ali.


Kanz al-`Ummâl (كنز العمال) [1]

There is a discussion about the word "واضطجع", whether it means sleeping or lying or having sex, but the next word معها ("with her") makes that discussion not important. Because even if he was just lying there, it was "with her", which is controversial enough. But apologists can dismiss the whole hadith as unreliable.

So the first hadith is authentic, but doesn't clearly support necrophilia, while the other hadith supports necrophilia, but is not very authentic. We could discuss about these pro-necrophilia hadiths, but maybe it's even more important to notice that there is no hadith explicitly prohibiting necrophilia. So even if the first one didn't mean necrophilia and the other was fabricated, there is still no basis for claiming necrophilia is haram.


Views of Islamic scholars

Since the Quran and sunna don't condemn necrophilia and Islamic scholars base their morality on Islam, their views towards necrophilia are tolerant:

ولا يعاد غسل الميت إذا أولج فيه لسقوط تكليفه ولا يجب بوطء الميتة حد ولا مهر

A dead body need not be washed after you have sexual intercourse with her


Imam Shafie - نهاية المحتاج الى شرح المنهاج فى الفقه على مذهب الامام الشافعى - Book Of Purity Chapter Of Washing [2]

You just have to wash your penis:

ولو غيب الحشفة في دبر امرأة او دبر رجل او فرج بهيمة او دبرها وجب الغسل سواء كان المولج فية حيا او ميتا صغيرا او كبيرا

If the male genitalia completely entered a woman's behind, or a mans behind or a baheema(animal) from behind or vagina, he must be washed wether it was alive or dead (ميتا), young or old


Ibn Hanbal - الكافي في فقه الإمام أحمد بن حنبل - المجلد الاول [3]

See Also

External links:

Sex with dead wife is allowed; women can use carrot to "relax"

References

  1. http://shiaonlinelibrary.com/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D8%AA%D8%A8/2277_%D9%83%D9%86%D8%B2-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%87%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D8%AC-%D9%A1%D9%A3/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D8%A9_635
  2. https://imgur.com/CgMZA
  3. https://imgur.com/SXT6T



Tuesday, January 5, 2021

Logical fallacies in the Quran

 (post reproduced from Why Quran is logically fallacious)


What follows is a list of fallacies and their examples taken directly from the Quran (Sahih Translation). This shows why Quran as a source of knowledge is extremely flawed. I went with the approach of going fallacy by fallacy instead of verse by verse because otherwise this post would be me quoting every other verse and saying appeal to emotion fallacy.
Genetic Fallacy - At many places in the Quran such as the following, it makes arguments that one should remain the way they were born. Now this commits many more fallacies then one but the one that I have noted is the most interesting one.
when your Lord took from the children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants and made them testify of themselves, [saying to them], "Am I not your Lord?" They said, "Yes, we have testified." [This] - lest you should say on the Day of Resurrection, "Indeed, we were of this unaware." (Quran 7:172)
Special Pleading - Well Allah in Quran on many occasions says that things just couldn’t have been different without providing a sufficient, or any explanation at all. One such case is the verse that follows.
Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah, they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah, Lord of the Throne, above what they describe. (Quran 21:22)
Post hoc ergo propter - Quran in the following verse asserts that when people pray to him on a boat and return home safely, they were saved because of their prayer. Now this commits more than just one fallacy but the most prominent one that this commits is the “Post hoc ergo propter” fallacy since, it asserts that two things happen after each other therefore the former was the cause of the latter.
And when they board a ship, they supplicate Allah, sincere to Him in religion. But when He delivers them to the land, at once they associate others with Him(Quran 29:65)
Cherrypicking - We don’t exclusively see cherrypicking from Muslims since the Quran itself commits the fallacy of suppressing evidence. It shows us a case of men crying for his help and getting it but later turning away from him which in and of itself is a fine example but the verse’s implicit conclusion is that men turn to him in hard times. That doesn’t follow because the argument ignores the times when men asked Allah and he decided not to intervene, or when men didn’t ask Allah but their bad times were dealt with anyways. Indeed Allah is the greatest of the cherrypickers.
And when adversity touches man, he calls upon his Lord, turning to Him [alone]; then when He bestows on him a favor from Himself, he forgets Him whom he called upon before, and he attributes to Allah equals to mislead [people] from His way. Say, "Enjoy your disbelief for a little; indeed, you are of the companions of the Fire." (Quran 39:8)
Is-Ought fallacy - Quran argues in the following verse, that if something is natural among humans then it should be kept the way it is. Now this commits multiple fallacies but the most outrageous one being that its breakage of Hume’s law.
So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah. That is the correct religion, but most people do not know. (Quran 30:8)
Omnipotence doesn’t matter, you can’t beat David Hume.
Non-sequitur:
In the following verse, the Quran states that even if all plants watered with the same water, some would produce tastier food then others and somehow concludes that it’s, therefore, a sign from God. The conclusion just doesn’t follow...
And within the land are neighboring plots and gardens of grapevines and crops and palm trees, [growing] several from a root or otherwise, watered with one water; but We make some of them exceed others in [quality of] fruit. Indeed in that are signs for a people who reason. (Quran 13:4)
Here the Quran concludes that Jesus couldn't have been the son of God from just one premise that is, he eats, it's a blatant non-sequitur, but it also commits a false dichotomy fallacy that one can either eat or be the son of God, and also commits an Ad Hominem fallacy at the end by attacking the critic.
The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded. (Quran 5:75)
unfalsifiable fallacy - In the verse that follows, Quran responds to a question asking for evidence by simply saying that the one asking the question is arrogant. It’s not only an unfalsifiable fallacy but also an egregious Ad Hominem fallacy.
And those who do not expect the meeting with Us say, "Why were not angels sent down to us, or [why] do we [not] see our Lord?" They have certainly become arrogant within themselves and [become] insolent with great insolence. (Quran 25:21)
Appeal to popularity fallacy - Here the Quran Argues that people should believe just because most people around them believe in Allah.
And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are foolish, but they know [it] not. (Quran 2:13)
Begging the Question - Quran in many verses such as the one that follows asserts that Allah is the creator of everything and you should believe this because you were created by him.
How can you disbelieve in Allah when you were lifeless and He brought you to life; then He will cause you to die, then He will bring you [back] to life, and then to Him, you will be returned. (Quran 2:28)
Appeal to force - Quran at many occasions such as the one that follows threatens those who disbelieve to essentially make them accept the conclusion out of sheer fear for their lives.
Have they not seen how many generations We destroyed before them which We had established upon the earth as We have not established you? And We sent [rain from] the sky upon them in showers and made rivers flow beneath them; then We destroyed them for their sins and brought forth after them a generation of others. (Quran 6:6)
Straw-man - Quran regularly straw-mans it’s opposing position to assert that they are liars and one such instance is the verse that follows
And those who disbelieve say to those who believe, "Follow our way, and we will carry your sins." But they will not carry anything of their sins. Indeed, they are liars. (Quran 2912)
The Divine Fallacy - On certain occasions like the one that follows the Quran just says it’s obvious that he is the creator if you look at the wonders of creation. In other words, it says that the world is so, good that it must have a creator.
Say, [O Muhammad], "Travel through the land and observe how He began creation. Then Allah will produce the final creation. Indeed Allah, over all things, is competent."(Quran 29:20)
This is basically God’s version of “look at the trees” argument.
Hasty Generalization - Well, now most ex-Muslims are somehow criminals. Is this argumentation not worse than the arguments that nonintellectual Muslins present.
Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after your belief. If We pardon one faction of you - We will punish another faction because they were criminals. (Quran 9:66)
Loaded Question - In the following verse Quran says that if you ask Muslims they would say that it is Allah who created them but if that’s the case then they should be worshipping him. This is in a question form and it assumes that if someone created you then you should worship them.
And if you asked them who created them, they would surely say, " Allah ." So how are they deluded? (Quran 43:87)
False Cause - In the following two verses of the Quran it asserts a cause and effect relationship between mankind being in pain and turning to his very specific religion.
Indeed, We will remove the torment for a little. Indeed, you [disbelievers] will return [to disbelief]. The Day We will strike with the greatest assault, indeed, We will take retribution. (Quran 44:15-16)
Appeal to adverse consequences Fallacy - The verse quoted below commits multiple fallacies but the most apparent one being its appeal to adverse and undesirable consequences of disbelieving in order to prove itself correct.
And when he knows anything of Our verses, he takes them in ridicule. Those will have a humiliating punishment. (45:9)
Ad Hominem - The verse below most apparently says that disbelievers who have read or listened to the Quran are sinful liars which is rather than attacking their arguments is attacking them.
Woe to every sinful liar. Who hears the verses of Allah recited to him, then persists arrogantly as if he had not heard them. So give him tidings of a painful punishment. (Quran 45:7-8)
The Argument of repetition fallacy - In the entire Surah, Rehman Quran keeps presenting the same point that he is the one true God because he has done favors for you. While the point itself is extremely fallacious but the approach is way more fallacious than the point. What I have presented below is a taste of what surah Rehman’s repetition is like.
And grain having husks and scented plants. So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny? (Quran 55:12-13).
[He is] Lord of the two sunrises and Lord of the two sunsets. So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny? (Quran 55:17-18).
From both of them emerge pearl and coral. So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny? (Quran 55:22-23)
So on and so forth…
The appeal to consequences fallacy - The following verse insists that you should believe the Quran is speaking the truth because if you do that then you would be rewarded.
Believe in Allah and His Messenger and spend out of that in which He has made you successors. For those who have believed among you and spent, there will be a great reward.
Wishful thinking fallacy - In many of its verses such as the one that follows the Quran, makes its gullible readers dwell in wishful thinking, granting it some legitimacy in their minds.
And your Lord is going to give you, and you will be satisfied. (Quran 93:5)
Proof by assertion Fallacy - This verse like the representative of a quarter of the Quran where it just tries to prove itself by just making assertions.
And of His signs is that you see the earth stilled, but when We send down upon it rain, it quivers and grows. Indeed, He who has given it life is the Giver of Life to the dead. Indeed, He is over all things competent. (Quran 41:39)
Other quarters are the argument from authority, appeal to emotion, and ad hominems.
Ipse Dixit - Here like in many others of its verses Quran effectively asks is it not self-evident that this religion is true.
We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness? (Quran 41:53)
Slippery Slope - Here Quran asserts that one event would inevitably lead to another, multiple times which it does without sufficient data, or reason if any at all.
O you who have believed, do not take as intimates those other than yourselves, for they will not spare you [any] ruin. They wish you would have hardship. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater. We have certainly made clear to you the signs if you will use reason. (Quran 3:118)
Kafka Trapping Fallacy - Quran in many of its verses emotionally manipulates its readers and tries to ignite the feeling of guilt to convince them that his book is true.
The example of those who were entrusted with the Torah and then did not take it on is like that of a donkey who carries volumes [of books]. Wretched is the example of the people who deny the signs of Allah. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people. (Quran 62:5)
Gambler’s fallacy - Here Quran asserts that if a nonbeliever is asked whether they want to die or not, they will say they don’t. Now, that somehow means that they know that Allah’s real. Lord indeed is the greatest of the gamblers.
Say, "O you who are Jews, if you claim that you are allies of Allah, excluding the [other] people, then wish for death, if you should be truthful." But they will not wish for it, ever, because of what their hands have put forth. And Allah is Knowing of the wrongdoers. (Quran 62:8-7)
Talk about causation.
No True Scotsman Fallacy - The verse that follows proposes a method to verify belief which cannot be used because of its unfalsifiability. It, therefore, commits a no true Scotsman fallacy.
The believers are only those who, when Allah is mentioned, their hearts become fearful, and when His verses are recited to them, it increases them in faith; and upon their Lord, they rely - (Quran 8:2)
Shifting the burden of proof - Quran rather than proving it's authenticity challenges non-believers to prove it wrong, evidenced by verses like
Say, "If mankind and the jinn gathered in order to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like of it, even if they were to each other assistants." (Quran 17:88)
The argument from Ignorance - Quran appeals to ignorance and the fear of ignorance found in the humankind of the time to legitimize itself, evidenced by verses such as
Do they not see the birds controlled in the atmosphere of the sky? None holds them up except Allah. Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe. (Quran 16:79)
Turns out, birds can fly from entirely natural processes and they do not need a holder to hold them in the air.
The argument from authority - Rather than proving itself as an authority Quran just asserts itself as an authority and comes to the implicit conclusion that therefore, all that is written in it is the ultimate truth and one such example is,
He is Allah, other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him. (Quran 59:23)
False Dichotomy - Quran regularly presents blatantly false dichotomies such as that which follows, to try to convince nonbelievers that it knows better than we ever could.
Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]? (Quran 52:35)
Circular reasoning - Here the argument presented is, a rhetorical question basically saying you can’t argue with me about God because he has guided me while proving that he has guided him.
And his people argued with him. He said, "Do you argue with me concerning Allah while He has guided me? And I fear not what you associate with Him [and will not be harmed] unless my Lord should will something. My Lord encompasses all things in knowledge; then will you not remember?
Affirming the Consequent - Here in the verse quoted below, Quran sets up a conditional saying that a book directly from God shouldn't have contradiction; Quran doesn't, therefore it's from God. While it's also a non sequitur it's most glaringly is the propositional fallacy known as "Affirming the Consequent".
Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction. (Quran 4:82)